Anthony “The Messenger” Thompson Q&A about his controversial loss in D.C. “The world knows who won. I am out to prove that I am the best in the world.” – 2008

The alleged robbery happened in a Baltimore boxing ring on the evening of August 15, 2008. It was witnessed by people across the country as the situation was broadcast live on ESPN 2 Friday Night Fights.

The plaintiff – Philadelphia Junior Middleweight contender Anthony “The Messenger” Thompson took a road trip in hopes of furthering his case to become recognized as a player in the deep 154 pound division. It wasn’t a cupcake assignment, as Thompson would have to beat an up-and-comer named Ishmael Arvin in Arvin’s backyard of Washington D.C.  to further advance his cause.

The old saying goes something like “if you knock a D.C. fighter out in his home turf, the referee will pick him up and put him on the stool before the count reaches 10”.

For six rounds of a scheduled 10 round bout, Thompson out-everything’d Ishmail Arvin in this contest. Things were going smooth until a clash of heads caused a serious cut over The Messenger’s left eye.

This is where things get cloudy. A ringside doctor to determined that the fight can no longer continue due to the cut. By rule, when a fight is stopped by an accidental clash of heads, it goes to the judges to determine the winner.

Anthony Thompson cut

But in this instance, referee Malik Waleed mistakenly ruled that the cut was caused by a punch and awarded a TKO win to Arvin who at the time was down on all three scorecards.

Video evidence was immediately made available showing the real cause of the cut but this was disregarded and the erroneous ruling stood to the disbelief of many at ringside and the millions watching at home.

This situation hasn’t gone away quietly as some might have hoped as protests, petitions and more were filed to make this situation right.

We recently caught up with Anthony and his brother Ty to talk in depth about the matter and were where things stand and how Team Thompson plans to move forward.

Philly Keith: As most people know, you were on the wrong end of what many are calling one of the worst boxing stoppages in recent memory. Clearly ahead in the fight, you were cut by a head but which was mistakenly ruled a punch.

The fight was stopped and you were stuck with the loss. What’s the latest with this situation?

Team Thompson: As of right now the sanctioning body is on my side and stripped Arvin of the USBO belt that was on the line that night. A lot of people are upset over this, to see me lose like that.

If I was awarded a win that way, I would have hung my head in shame if I took a butt whoopin’ like that! My people are on it and we are moving in a positive direction. Cameron Dunkin, who is one of the best managers in the business, is working on things.

PK: But the end result still hasn’t been over turned?

TT: The DC commission is on vacation but they will have to answer soon. I can’t lay the blame on Arvin, he is a fighter and came to win but I showed the world that I am a different level fighter. The world knows who won, I was in great shape, came in at 151 lbs. I fought through a big gash that burned like hell. I kept my poise and kept it clean.

PK: Going into the fight, what did you know of your opponent?

TT: We figured they were looking for a local guy in that area to build on for the future; Arvin had a good record but no real name before that fight. They thought if we can get a win over The Messenger, now we have something to sell tickets with and build off of. The fight was in D.C. but it was sold to TV as the return of Anthony Thompson because people know the name and what I bring to the ring.

PK: It was obvious that the fight was a very one sided your favor while it lasted. But the Maryland commission has been put on the spot in the past with some suspect decisions and such. What did you find out after the fight?

TT: It turned out that I was also fighting a politically connected commission. The referee Walid is from Arvin’s region and from the same gym. We hear from very reliable sources that Gary “Digital” Williams, a Maryland boxing writer who was ringside has stock invested in Arvin (A claim Williams vehemently denies). He was the only writer who gave Arvin much credit in the media. There was just a lot of grime involved.

This wasn’t your average fight. A title was on the line, sanctions were involved. It was a main event on ESPN. My career has always had some controversy around it, from the days with Top Rank to my last two losses which had very disputed endings, why would this be any different?

The DC judge only had me up 2 rounds; referee Malik Walid missed a knockdown and calling it a slip. He missed the head butt, even Shannon Briggs called it in the 4th round and Joe Tessatore brought up the video.

After seeing it on the TV the referee even admitted that it was a head butt and he missed the call originally!

PK: Do you want a rematch?

TT: Do you really want to see that again? In this case I don’t see any need for a rematch. The fight was not competitive. I knocked him down 3 times, was never in any trouble.

He might have gotten one round, the 5th which I took off because he wasn’t doing anything. The people know who won that fight.

I am disappointed because I was stripped of the opportunity to be the USBO champion and fight for the IBO title. I found out that I have a lot of supporters out there.

I am a man who stands by his principals.

PK: Moving forward, you still do have that cut over your eye. How long do you expect it to take to fully heal before for can return to the ring?

TT: I think I will be ready in about another month; late October might be a push but definitely by November. We are working on some things; HBO is interested in some Boxing After Dark dates.

It’s funny I am getting more calls after this fight even with the supposed loss. The world knows who won. I am out to prove that I am the best in the world.

PK: Final question, what do you think of the Jr. Middleweight division as it stands right now?

TT: I think the Jr middleweight division is wide open. There are some talented guys but no one superstar talent you can put your finger on. But some of the fighters out there like Sergio Mora got the support and backing to become world champ. You have Verno Phillips who is an older veteran but in this game you can get old real soon.

Training is the hardest part. Can he put out a hard 6 weeks of training anymore? Watch out for The Messenger!
PK: Thanks for your time Champ, best of luck in the future!

Thompson is also an active member in his community, working with VisionQuest, helping juveniles around the city lead better lives.

Contact The Messenger personally on MySpace at www.myspace.com/antthemessenger

If you have any questions, comments or suggestions you can email Philly Keith at keith@phillykeith.com

Go to www.phillykeith.com for up to the minute info on the Philly boxing scene

192 thoughts on “Anthony “The Messenger” Thompson Q&A about his controversial loss in D.C. “The world knows who won. I am out to prove that I am the best in the world.” – 2008”

  1. people all over the world know philly fighters is dnagerous and they try their hardest to avoid us or do us wrong keep your head up Champ they already stripped that dude now the wait for the title to change Hands

  2. i really like this article imma big fan of The Messenger’s and did’nt want to see him go out like that! espeacially when he was beating this guy like you said to everything

  3. ELROD TO THE MESSENGER! YALL WORKED TO HARD FOR THIS TO LET THIS HAPPEN..ITS UR TIME! MILLIONS OF PPL SAW WHAT HAPPN..IT WAS A DOWN RIGHT ROBBERY.JUDGES REFEREE BOXER ALL FROM D.C. AND U KNO WHAT TEAM THOMPSON STILL CAME OUT ON TOP..ALL PRAISES DUE..CONGRATS!SEE U NEXT FIGHT!

  4. TY-THE MOUTH-ZIONBig Up’s to Philly Keith for writing one of the many righteous article to come , about the injustice done to the true USBO Champion Anthony The Messenger Thompson……..Aug15 live on ESPN2 I love this article. It get strAight to the facts and not with emotions….. ……….The DC> commission kinda, remind me of the Egyptian Pharoh, that refuse to do the right thing by overturning the slavery of the Children of Israel….refference Exodus the 7th chapter verse 1 thur 7,but after its all said in done,,,,,,,,, Yah had his way and his servants was Uplifted…….I know and understand the boxing game very well this is why the desicion becomes a such a travesty……. when you playing against politricks.stay firm and let Yah War. The Wholw know The Champ won the battle Peace and Blessing to all Family, FRiends,and And true Supporters of The Champ and His Camp! Tohdah Yah

  5. THANKS A MILLION PHILLY KEITH YOUR ONE OF THE BEST WRITERS OF THIS REGION…… YOU SURLY GAVE SOME JUSTICE ON THIS SITUTATION AND CALLED IT LIKE YOU SEEN IT >>>>>THE BEST ARTICLE I SEEN THAT SPOKE A INJUSTICE IN A LONG TIME SINCE MUHAMED ALI BEING STRIP OF THE TITLE FOR NOT GOING TO VIETNAM!

  6. YO YALL NEED 2 STOP CRYIN ABOUT THE FIGHT ANT QUIT.TALKING ABOUT HE KNOCKED ME DOWN,THAT HAPPENS IN BOXING.I GOT UP,NOW WHAT, THE FIGHTS NOT OVER WE HAD 7 MORE ROUNDS 2 GO.Y DIDNT U COMPLAIN ABOUT THE SO CALLED HEAD BUTT THEN,OYEA U THOUGHT I WAS GONE,THOUGHT WRONG.DIDNT NO I HAD THAT DOG IN ME DID U??AS 4 THE STOPPAGE NO ONE STOPPED THE FIGHT HE QUIT.WATCH THE FIGHT HE FELT ME IN ROUNDS 4 5 AND 6 GETTING STRONGER.OR CATS IN PHILLY CANT C.STOP TALKING CRAZY I’LL FIGHT ANYBODY ANYTIME ALREADY PROVED THAT.JUS FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS SITE NEXT TIME SPELL MY NAME RIGHT PHILLY KEITH. PEACE..ARSENAL..

  7. ToDAH YAH fOR WASHONGTON DC USING THE MESSENGER TO EXSPOSE THEIR CORRUPT WAYS, AND USING THE MESSENGER TO SHOW BMORE OR ANY REGION DONT PLAY WITH PHILLY FIGHTERS WE JUST DONT HAVE GOOD CHEESE STEAKS WE HAVE EVEN BETTER FIGHTERS

  8. shotgun to the messenger!!!i knew you would do it champ!!2 knockdowns pretty much told the whole story!!!so even if the fight would ahve continued the odds would still been u your favor!!!p.s stay up !!!!!!!

  9. KEEP IT REAL SPORTS MAGAZINE:) we know that Anthony The Messenger Thompson Came of a year and a half lay off and still show the world live on Espn 2 that he one of Philly Best Fighters and the only fighter of our city to get Robbed like that that even ESPN2 wanted to fight:)

  10. i like the fight that i watch live on espn2 this past aug 15th both guys show their heart Anthony for fighting with his eye injury, and Arvin for getting drop 3times and trying to still fight!Thompson cleary showed better skills and poise truly out classed Arvin:)but let’s remember if Thompson was’nt the fighter he is>>>> Arvin could have beat him he’s not a bum just not on Thompson Caliber

  11. Firstly, I want to say to the Messenger… be patient and hold on to your positive attitude. It’s yours and in time you will posses it. Anyone who saw the fight knows you are definitely back (not the you really left, I’d like to call it letting others eat;-)!!!) I would like to see them correct this problem and in my opinion if a rematch is necessary knock him on his bum a few more times! I strongly feel replay should be allowed in boxing and they should start with this fight. This talented young man was robbed and hopefully the boxing comission will come to their senses and right this wrong. In the mean while Champ keep knocking them down. P.S. you are loved in NYC too. Shalom way Ahava. YAH BARUCH KAROOTZ

  12. AYAHShalawam To Everyone!!!! To My Akhi/Brotha The Messenger And His Akh/Brotha Ty Who I Call The King, Always remember what YHWH Says That No Weapon Formed Against The Shall Prosper And Every Tongue That Shall Rise Against U In Judgement YHWH Shall Condemn. This Is The Heritage Of The Servants Of YHWH, And Their Righteousness is Of Him, Saith YHWH YahshiYah/Isaih 54:17!!!! Luv U Both In YAH!!!! My Malakims Of Yahsharal, Keep Ur Head Up And Always Look To YAH And Not Man!!!! Hannah

  13. Excuse me! I have no, absolutely NO stock in Ishmail Arvin or any other boxer from my region. The fact is I called it the way it should have been.The fact also is that the Thompson camp should have complained about the head butt before it took place.To call me out and say or imply I have financial stock on any boxer in my region is just bogus reporting. I’ve been doing this for 21 years and my reputation for fairness in calling or reporting bouts is beyond reproach.

  14. This comment is in regards to the interview/article with Anthony “The Messenger” Thompson, And I just wanted to let you know, and feel free to pass this on. I believed that politics had something to do with what went down. And to know that Walid and Arvin were from the same region was no surprise either. I hope that Cameron Dunkin continues to stand and fight just as “The Champ” did, NO HOLDS WITH HELD, SIMPLY PUT KICK ASS.”Just always keep in mind that everytime a prayer goes up, and faith is the key, blessings come down.If justice is done the right way, the belt/title will be in the hands of its rightful owner, “The Messenger”, and in my opinion there is no need for a rematch, “the messege” has already been sent and I am quit sure Arvin would not want to feel the wrath of the true champ. Best wishes and prayers go out to the entire Thompson camp.

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