Gee Culmer interview
Photo & Interview by Mike "Teek" McGuiganMany "experts" in the boxing game will say that being consistent is one of the primary ingredients to a successful career. Funny thing is, sometimes the guy who stays on his job is usually the one who is overlooked. When you come from a city as deep in talent as ours, it is very easy to have your name lost in the shuffle if you don't sell a ton of tickets or pile up the knockouts. Philly middleweight Gee Culmer is a fighter who brings his hard hat to the ring and gives an honest effort every time out. He isn't a KO artist, and doesn't get sucked into wild brawls. Instead he comes clocks in, executes his plan and piles up the wins. After his most recent victory, Gee now stands at 13 - 1 with 3ko's and quietly has put his name into the mix of the best middleweights boxing in our region. The road hasn't always been easy for Culmer. He has been through the struggle but continues to grind away in hopes of getting that one opportunity that every fighter dreams of. After an early career loss, a stretch on the boxing back burner and the death of the man who molded his boxing style, he could have easily called it a career. Instead, the Shulers Gym mainstay stayed focused and rebounded to win his last 8 outings as he became a regular contributor to the cards at The Legendary Blue Horizon. Though his recent success is noteworthy, Gee knows the mission hasn't yet been accomplished. In this spot, Mike "Teek" McGuigan puts down the high res Nikon and picks up the pen for an exclusive interview with the man we like to call "The Thoroughbred" .
MM: Alright Gee , First off I want to congratulate you on your recent win. Can you tell me a little bit more about the fight ?
Gee: Well the fight was a very good fight. The guy that I fought he had a very deceptive record. I didn’t even understand how he had the record that he had because he’s a very, very good fighter and I had bronchitis about a week before the fight. I was on antibiotics. I had to try to mask how I was really feeling because my trainer wanted to pull me out of the fight and I didn’t want him to because I was originally scheduled to fight Joe Christy. I've been scheduled to fight him maybe two or three other times. When I found out maybe about a week before that I wouldn’t be fighting Joe, I just still went full steam ahead with it because it was too close to pull out and I wanted to fight. I don’t have the luxuries to pull out of fights, you know, because I’m on borrowed time as a fighter. I'm doing what I need to be doing and what I should be doing as a fighter .
MM: That leads up to my next question. I know you and your camp were preparing for a fight with one of Philly's best club fighters Joe Christy. How hard was it to change the plan on a moments notice?
Gee: It wasn’t hard at all simply because I look at it as this stage of fighting as the toughest time. When you’re on a level with Bernard Hopkins or you get to win a championship, you know who you’re fighting most of the time. At this stage, you have to be prepared for all things and I train to be prepared for anybody. I do my best, it really doesn’t matter whether it was Joe Christy or anybody else. These times are hardest simply because they can pull a guy in from anywhere, you don’t know too much about the guy, you’ve never heard anything about the guy and the guy comes out and he’s kicking ass. It mattered in a sense of if I would be fighting but it didn’t matter to me because of how I did my training simply because I train hard and I give a hundred percent for every fight. So as far as my training methods it really didn’t matter.
MM: Alright I just meant that if you prepared for one style of a fight being that Joe Christy isn’t that much of a mobile fighter. I mean he’s a target out there to be hit, but when you hit him, he’s going to hit you back. I figured maybe you guys were training with the fact that maybe you could probably do a little more movement and still get in what you had to get in and Joe wasn’t going to be hard to find when you were throwing punches.
Gee: Man I’m from Philadelphia man, everybody fights like Joe Christy in Philadelphia. From the smallest guy to the biggest guy. We got a guy in there he’s ten years old now he’s obviously one of the little guys and he’ll hit you back. So really coming up in Philly everybody fights that way. Even we have guys that aren't boxers that will beat your ass man. So coming out of this city man there is no light worker. I am convinced of that everyday in the gym. I was pretty much use to it and there wasn’t really too much that I did extra simply because it was Joe. I mean i'll give credit to him, yeah I know he is a tough guy but he comes from a city where a lot of guys fight like he does. So you know It wasn’t really too much of a stretch.
MM: I was just doing a little research and noticed that you fought your last eight fights at the Blue Horizon. Do you see yourself bumping up your competition anytime soon and leaving the comfort zone of The Blue?
Gee: Well let me tell you something man, I don’t want to go too far into it but my original trainer Mikey Carter passed away in December of '03 and our last fight I had a loss down at the Mohegan Sun that August. My trainer tried to get me to fight from that August until he passed away in December. So I sat from august of 03’ to august of 04’. After that I sat from about august of 04’ until almost September of 05’ waiting for a fight again. So I don’t care if I fight every fight at the Blue Horizon as long as I’m fighting because there where I didn’t get anything, I couldn’t get a thing. Not saying that anybody wouldn’t fight me because I don’t like when guys say that. As long as you’re in this game there’s somebody out there that will fight you. I just couldn’t get a fight but thanks to Vernoca Michaels and Rob Murray, I leaped up and now I’m fighting. So whatevers coming to me, will come. Its no stress for me but Rob Murray’s now in my corner. He did very, very well by me and he’s continuing to do very well by me. I just do my best and just train as much as I can and give a hundred percent every time to be ready for whoever he puts me against.
MM: Is there anyone in mind you’d really like to fight in the near future ?
Gee: I read your guy’s interviews all the time and I hear you call out this guy and that guy and I just like to give a person an understanding of what I'm talking about . When Mike Tyson was coming up, he was asking them to call out this guy and call out that guy. I can't call out anybody, simply because the person I call out might be there when I get ready to make that step up. My thing is I got to be ready for anybody. I just gotta be ready for anyone. Calling out one guy won't shape out my career to where it needs to be. I have to be ready for anybody, any guy. I always like to say coming out of Philly. All these guys from Philly I have to fight one.
MM: We’re not really trying to get you to call a fighter out. Its not that you want to call someone out. I'm saying is there a fighter that you see that your people can make a fight happen with that would help boost your career you know to help move you along a lot faster.
Gee: I really can't think man to be honest with you. I really cant think of a fighter at the moment but its my job is to look what's in front of me right now and be ready for whoever they put in front of me. My job is just to do that. I had a lot of visions and dreams before my trainer past away. I went through a deep depression, you see other guys they change their trainers like they change their draws. I had my trainer coming in to boxing . He molded me into everything I am as a fighter and taught me everything that I know. When I lost my trainer it was really like losing a father to me. I haven’t had many father figures in my life so when I lost him it was like losing a father figure. When Mikey Carter died, to me man it was like i'm surprised really that i'm still in boxing being so that he died. I never seen me moving on without him, but like I said man because of guys like Rob Murray, talking to him at midnight gave me the confidence to continue on because that is what my trainer would have wanted. The only fights I known of are the fights i've fought.
MM: For the people who really don’t know anything about you how would you describe yourself as a fighter ?
Gee: I would hope to be adaptable that’s the main thing to me man. To be able to do all things all fascists of the game. To be able to come forward and be a puncher when I need to be puncher. And be able to box when in need to box. A lot of guys get caught up in the tough guy thing. But I’m not into that, I want do whatever possible to win the fight besides doing something dirty. I want to do anything necessary for me to win the fight and have the knowledge to do that. And not just be categorized as a come forward fighter , as a boxer, or as a boxer / puncher, to be able to do anything not just be an orthodox fighter and do everything by the book. Or unorthodox like a Roy Jones, everyone says he does it the wrong way but he makes it right. Or a guy lie Bernard Hopkins who does everything by the book and the jab is right the right hand comes out straighter than ever. Or be able to throw a perfect left hook or to be a counter puncher. To me just being able to be in shape and do anything that it takes to win the fight.
MM: At the age of 32 do you feel any added pressure that your next loss, if any, would really hurt your chances to be able to fight for a world title ?
Gee: Not necessarily, I haven’t thought about that. Me doing my research on boxing, Archie Moore didn’t win he the Light Heavyweight title until he was damn near 38 years old. Bernard didn’t have his first real fight til the age of 36 when he fought Felix Trinidad. Tarver, he's up in age. Age is just something for guys to talk about on the television but its really about how you treat yourself. I've never taken a drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t smoke marijuana. I’m a home body. If i'm not at work or in the gym then i'm in the house. If i'm not thinking about training , i'm training, i'm in the house watching videos. I don’t have any bad habits even with woman. I'm not a player I don’t have more than one woman. That’s not me so most of the time i'm in the house contemplating what i have to do and because i'm on borrowed time that’s more of a reason for me to take very seriously what I do to know how like I said at the beginning of the interview I don’t have the luxuries to pull out of fights. I don’t have the luxuries of taking things for granted such as taking a drink or a puff of a cigarette or partying or things like that. I don’t have those luxuries. A lot of young guys do, they can drink, they can party because of their age they have a lot more time of boxing then I do. I just don’t do those things man, its either the gym or home or running or you know training and that’s it.
MM: Its coming up on five years since your one and only loss. To Dorian Beaupierre. Since that fight Dorian has a record of 3-4-2. And fought the likes of Kelly Pavlik. You have a record of 8-0 and haven’t fought anyone of that status. Do you feel like its time for you to get a notable fight on ESPN or HBO Boxing After Dark or something where you could make some real money.
Gee: I don’t know man I look at it like this. If its meant to be for me, it will be. I never envisioned my trainer not being here. Never in a million years did I think my trainer wouldn’t be here. Even yourself you could probably say a few things that happened in your life. That you could say damn I didn’t expect to be here so what I want is one thing but will happen to me is a whole other thing. Of course I think about making a little money. Of course I think of having that big fight and what will be the outcome of the fight. I think about all those things. I’m a fighter plus I’m a fan of boxing so I think about all those things. What’s meant to happen for me is going to happen and there’s nothing I can do about it no matter how much I want. There is an old saying “your eyes might shine, your teeth might grit" so no matter how bad I want it, I give myself a chance to get it by training hard. But whether I do ever get that chance, shit , only time will tell.
MM: After looking at both of your records since that fight don’t you feel that somebody should be saying maybe we should give Gee Culmer a chance to fight Kelly Pavlik instead of Dorian Beaupierre.
Gee: You see I know his name very well he was my first loss, ill never forget it.
MM: Do you think that you would ever want to avenge the loss that you had to Dorian Beaupierre.
Gee: I would never want to take a fight with a guy simply because he's not the fighter that he once was. I would only take it if he was still the fighter that he was. If its meant and we cross paths again then we’ll do it, if not then so be it. I'm not really worried about Dorian Beaupierre unless he’s standing across the ring from me. Then I would have a reason to worry about him. See there's a lot more to boxing then just throwing left hands and right hooks and running five miles. You got to watch tapes and learn your opponents. Bernard Hopkins made a blue print for boxing. I’m gone to follow the blue print that Bernard laid the best that I can. I may not get the success that he had but I will get some success in following in his footsteps. I believe every fighter in Philadelphia should follow Bernard Hopkins blue print. Bernard Hopkins blue print will work for any of the seven original divisions in boxing. I was what sparing with Bernard in Puerto Rico for the Trinidad fight. Bernard never said to me that I need to do this and that. I was just around him and very observant and just learned everything I could from him. It was like being paid to go to school and Bernard was the teacher.
MM: Is it safe to assume that Bernard is your favorite fighter or someone that you look up to?
Gee: I look up to him but he is not my favorite fighter. I look up to him for his dedication, his tenacity, and the stick-to-it-ness, and how he gives a hundred percent. To me Bernard Hopkins is Marvin Haggler reincarnated. Instead of M.H. its B.H.
MM: What would you say was your most memorable moment as a professional boxer?
Gee: The day Bernard Hopkins asked me to start sparing with him. Actually I have to favorite memories. Sparing with Bernard and the day he gave me my first check for sparing with him. He told me I should buy a bike. And I said why. And he said you want to save your legs. You can ride your bike just as well as you run. I took that first whole check he gave me and went out and bought a trek. It’s the same bike that Lance Armstrong had. I spent my whole check on that bike. Those are the two moments that I love the most. I go back to that story anytime anyone asks.
MM: In ending this interview, is there anything you would like to add to let people know who Gee Culmer is ?
Gee: A hardworking man that loves this city. That loves everything that comes out of this city and that has to do with boxing. As far as you guys at Philly Keith and anything that promotes boxing and the history of this city man. What we have done. The great Sugar Ray Robinson fought here; a lot of guys don’t know that. Out of this city we have a champion in every major original division except for fly weight. There’s too many places like Geno's, Pat's, and Jims serving us cheese steaks so we don’t have anybody that can make weight for fly weight. I can go on about the rich history of this city and you guys making your own mark. I love it, I love it to death man and as long as i'm in, i'm going to love to be in it. There’s a saying in a rap song that says "i'm not the captain of the yacht but i'm on the boat" and that’s how I sum up my career. No I’m not the champion, and no everyone’s not talking about me, but I’m in it and I’m doing my best. Hopefully this will all work out for me.
MM: Gee I’d like to thank you for taking the time out to go in detail about your career and your life for me and all your fans. Good luck in the future. TKO Teek.
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